Tuesday, August 20, 2002

Random Comments on Jay Love's 1230 the Buzz Show Today (08/20/2002)
Jay wants blacks to support black owned media. So if I say support "white owned media", how long before I am called a racist?

Jay can't make any assumptions about the teenager pictured on the front page of the 08/20/2002 Enquirer, but he can say that he expects 700 WLW hosts or callers to refer to the kids who rioted as "savages". That might be good enough for Sensible Don's insensible comments page.

Does Jay see the irresponsibility in giving a forum to black separatist groups? The more you allow racists to spew their propaganda unchallenged on the air, the more listeners who will start agreeing with their propaganda.

I am losing a lot of respect for Jay over this issue. His attitude appears to be to dismiss what happened, and infer that is was no big deal, a media hyped event done by the "white" media to try and tarnish the Black Family Reunion. The BFR has been tarnished all by itself. When a festival is held to celebrate and promote a strong black family, and it ends with the children of a large number of black families rioting, the irony can't help but be seen.
Victims Of Weekend Violence Speak Out
The article stated “the event itself was problem-free.” The event was not problem free, there were fights and kids running out of control at the Festival. I think that was a bit of biased reporting.
Final Reply from John Schlagetter
I don't think John has enjoyed our email exchange, and was not over joyous to have me publish them. He has a quasi-blog, but seems none to keen on mine. Well, I will just have to post my opinions here on his comments. It was fun while it lasted. I would guess that he thinks I am at least a bigot. I would be one of the white people he claims is in denial over the rampant racism. I will post a retort to this email tomorrow, if I have time.

Subj: RE: Comments on 1230 the Buzz on 08/18/2002
Date: 08/20/2002 7:15:50 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: john@foregenitor.com
To: CincyBlog@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)




Mr. Griffin. Oppression and repression do not have to be codified to exist and occur.

I believe the caller you cite identified himself as a Black Panther (an aged one at that if memory serves me correctly). I do not recall a specific statement that caller made which merited a challenge, and I was unprepared (in re the absence of my scheduled guest) to engage in a discussion of the merits of either the Black Panthers or the New Black Panthers. I did, if you recall, cite my disagreement with Malik Shabazz's characterization of Saddam Hussein as "poor old Saddam Hussein doesn't even have a can of Raid."

When callers to my show or, when necessary, any show (I currently am out of broadcast range during the day and therefore do not call or fax in) makes an inflammatory, patently inaccurate, or biased statement, I do challenge it. One reason I like Pat Barry's show is that he typically does allow such language to go unchallenged, unlike Bill Cunningham (I cannot speak to Mike McConnell's show).

I am aware of your blog but I have no interest in participating in an Andrew Sullivan-Paul Krugman style flame war. While I recognize that email connotes no guarantee of privacy, I consider it private communication akin to letter writing and telephone conversations. Regards,


The weirdest thing he kept on doing was call me Mr. Griffin. I called him John all of the time. I hoped he got the hint that I was not trying to be super formal and he did not have to put on his politician manners, but I don't mind the formality. I felt tacky by not showing the same, but oh well.
RedHawks’ anxiety over playing the Herd is rising
This is from a Huntington, WV newspaper. It is a sports column. I think the writer has lost his mind or was drunk as a skunk when he wrote it. I am serious. This column makes no sense, has multiple factual errors and sounds like someone who is off his medication.
For downtown, a lost weekend
The one day I miss Jay Love's Show and he makes such a claim, that was reported in the above Enquirer article. I have been to Riverfest 4 out of the last 5 years, and this event had more than two times the number of people on the river at 9 PM the day before Labor Day, than the Black Family Reunion had all weekend long. There were not wide youths running around beating up bus drivers at the last years Riverfest. I was there with a friend of mine, his wife and young child. There were no problems. No one needed to take shelter in a radio station booth from a bunch of kids fighting. Jay Love seems to be misinformed. I really wished I had heard his show. I will be listening today.

Monday, August 19, 2002

Someone at the Buzz or Radio-One is Reading Me
The following referrer link to the Cincinnati Blog was logged this morning.
"http://mail.radio-one.com/exchange/jlove/Inbox/another satisfied Buzz listener.EML?Cmd=open&tzoffset"
I know whose email inbox this is and I hope my reply is forwarded to him as well. I could imply the email header as a knock at me, but I would be assuming the tone of it on just supposition. I think it is logical and reasonable supposition, but still nothing conclusive. I don't really mind, I just like airing all of the hands that were touching my emails.
My Reply to John Schlagetter's Reply
I was not to elegant with my words, and a raised a new issue that I had not before, but I think I got my points across. As you can read below I belatedly informed John I have been posting our email exchange to my blog. I assumed he read it, so I hope he is not displeased. He tends to be one not afraid of an open discussion, and as former candidate for council he must know his words are open season to public consumption. Here is my reply:

Subj: Re: Comments on 1230 the Buzz on 08/18/2002
Date: 08/19/2002 10:20:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: CincyBlog
To: john@foregenitor.com



John,

Thanks for your reply. I am a regular listener to you and the Jay Love show. I do have a good idea of yours, Jay's, Emmanuel's, and Shawn's various opinions. The one opinion you all seem to share is that the "white man" has done harm and is doing harm to the "black man". I take great offense to your statement ".....I would be remiss in not identifying the ways in which whites, in fact, repress and oppress non-whites." If you had stated repress and oppress in the past tense, I would agree, as stated I find that to be wrong. If you are implying that non-whites are being "oppressed and repressed" currently, then I say show me examples of laws on the books that oppress or repress non-whites today. If you think non-whites are being "treated" poorly by "whites", then I say what a grossly biased generalization.

While I understand you are doing a show, I do have a problem with what you did in taking a call from a member of the New Black Panther Party. To me, that group is no different from the KKK or any neo-nazi group. If Mike McConnell from WLW took a phone call from the a local KKK member and failed to fervently challenge nearly every claim that KKK member stated, he would be lambasted by everyone for giving a platform to clear and open racists. Every media outlet would rightfully condemn him, and the outlet you appear on would surely be leading the charge. When a similar caller appears on the Buzz, and it does to almost every show everyday, there is not media outlet condemning the Buzz, outside of myself and maybe Sensible Don's website. I realize that you are not a regular daily host and don't have a position of power at the station, but do you not agree that giving a nearly open and unfettered forum to hate groups makes the Buzz at least partially complacent in fostering these hate group's agenda?

I really enjoy listening on Friday's to the "Week in Review." I think it is generally very entertaining and informative, but often everyone on the show let the extremists off the hook for their clearly racist comments they often make. I would encourage you to encourage the powers that be at the station to take care to try and not give a blank check to hate groups.

Thank you again for your reply. As a note: I have my own local blog and I have reporting on our conversation, and I often report on what happens on Jay Love's show, so you can retort my comments there if you ever have the notion to disagree with me. Have a good day.

Brian Griffin
Ohio News Network Stories
Nine Arrested Following Cincinnati Festival
Fight Breaks Out At Black Family Reunion
Both of these stories are mostly AP wire info and from the ONN affiliate WXIX FOX19
1230am The Buzz of Cincinnati
I was surprised by the Buzz's front page listing some news. One of the stores was about the occurrences at the Black Family Reunion this weekend, including a link to today's Enquirer story about yesterday's day two of the riots. This is a good step for the Buzz. They should include a regular news section on their website. I would hope it is as objective as the listing of the stories today. My only suggestion is that they create permanent pages with the news stories or create some type of archive.
More youth disturbances downtown
The Enquirer's take on day two. They finally got the quote from Cecil Thomas that WXIX had early yesterday.
Taft books six top shows for fall season
Some good news. This are some varied and different acts I have not seen visit Cincinnati since I have been here. I would like to see Jon Stewart myself.
The Cincinnati Post: 'Wilding' mars black family event
Here is the Post's take on the riot. I am not one to call this a "wilding," what ever that is claimed to be. I call it a riot.
Cincinnati festival ends with more arrests
The AP wire story from Columbus Dispatch about day two of the riot. This time it was a true "mini-riot," as this is such a quantifiable event. (Note the slow drip of a sarcasm.)
Police teargas 2,000 in 'wilding' at Ohio festival for black families
Just one of the newspapers picking up this story.
Miami University bans smoking in dorms
This is bold for Mother Miami. My junior year roommate smoked and did not smoke in the room (except a few times). I don't think this will matter much, but I wonder how it will go over on western campus. I also wonder why the hell this is not on the Enquirer or the Post. This might be a hot topic for local talk radio this week.

Sunday, August 18, 2002

John Schlagetter's Reply
I was surprised to get this so fast, but I was glad to get a response. I don't agree with the response, but I appreciate my opinion being heard. I am crafting my reply, and will be sending it later tonight or tomorrow.

Subj: RE: Comments on 1230 the Buzz on 08/18/2002
Date: 08/18/2002 3:08:48 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: john@foregenitor.com
To: CincyBlog@aol.com




Mr. Griffin: The tenor of your email presumes my positions on these issues rather than inquiring about them. Within the limited confines of a one hour radio program (closer to 40 minutes once commercials and callers are netted out), I try to cover many subjects primarily to hear from others. I present information and, when I feel it appropriate and not propogandistic, my opinion.

I take great issue with many representations of the NBPP4SD and statements made by Malik Shabazz and Endure X. It was not my intent today to debate the merits or veracity of the NBPP4SD; I wasn't going to talk about it at all except my guest didn't show. Instead, I wanted to introduce the subject and hear what callers had to say.

In regards to reparations, I'm fairly sure I talked about the difficulty in dimensionalizing not just the problem but whatever solution may exist. My conversation at the show's end with "Lock and Load" addressed just such concerns. Contextualizing the issue within the realm of additional issues you cite (suffrage, etc.) is part of the problem; however, I do not believe such analogies are reasons to not have the reparations discussion.

You don't have to tell me about the KKK: my first appearance before a Committee of Council was to discuss the Klan and I cited the FBI's characterization of it as a domestic terrorist organization.

Yes, the first purpose of talk radio is to entertain. I attempt to do so with bona fide information and considered opinion. I do not "blame the white man," but having talked to as many thousands of Cincinnatians as I have, I would be remiss in not identifying the ways in which whites, in fact, repress and oppress non-whites.

Had I time today, I was going to address the xenophobia evidenced by the NBPP4SD; my "non-responsiveness to outright racism" simply isn't so. I repeatedly (when relevant to the conversation) state that blacks can in fact be racists; however, when discussing the impact of racism, that of whites grossly outweighs that of non-whites.

Rest assured, I won't be calling you anything, and I am promoting no such thing as "revenge on the 'white man' by blacks." Such a statement lacks fails the straight face test. I assume you had tuned in to listen to Ken Anderson's show- perhaps if you listen to The Week In Review on Fridays from 1-4 and my regular Sunday Buzz from 2-3 you will develop a more holistic opinion of my views. And don't hesitate to call in with your views- 749-1230.

John Schlagetter Has Lost My Vote
His white guilt and his "blame the white man" opinions are nuts and I wrote him an email regarding his program this morning on 1230 the Buzz. I wonder if John's promotion of the racist and black separatist New Black Panther Party is done to keep him on the good side in case they ever take over the country. Oh how the ignorance and emotional rationalizations prevail. If he ever runs for office again, I will not vote for him. Here is my email:

Subj: Comments on 1230 the Buzz on 08/18/2002
Date: 08/18/2002 11:36:22 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: CincyBlog @aol.com
To: john@foregenitor.com

John,

I agree with you on many or even most issues, but your ambiguity on Reparations is just nuts. Should I blame myself for the oppression of the Irish because I am English, while also being Irish? Should I sue the US government for allowing the oppression of me by religion? Should women sue for being denied the right to vote and own property? What you are being ambiguous is old world sectarianism. You are allowing extremists groups to gain credence from you opinion. The New Black Panther part party is listed at Tolerance.org as one of several hate groups in the US. These are listed right next to the KKK and skinheads. I really hope this is just a way for you to entertain your audience, and not your sincere viewpoint, but I fear not. I voted for you in the last election, but your blame the "white man" view points and your non-response to out right racism in your interaction with the New Black Panther Party is something I cannot consider to be a reasonable position for any person. I will not vote for you for any office ever again. You can call me a white person in denial all day long, but you seem to be promoting a movement for revenge on the "white man" by blacks.

Brian Griffin
Mt. Washington

Here is the AP Wire story: Tear Gas Breaks Up Cincinnati Crowd.
Battle of the Local News Outlets
Using their websites as guides, which into today's climate if you don't have a good website then you are behind the times, I will rate the local major news outlets on this story.
Enquirer: gets an A-; The were the only outlet to have their website updated last night and did it twice within an hour. The only get a negative because they did not have anything additional to report this morning and only had one picture.
FOX19: gets a B+; They had one the most telling quotes in their story that hit the web page this morning, and they even put crawl on the screen last night to warn people not to go downtown.
700WLW: gets a C+; They are the only place for live broadcasted breaking news on the half hour, which they had at midnight, but at 12:30 AM they only listed the weather and a national news update, nothing on the local news, not even who won the baseball game.
CincyPost: gets a C-; They do not publish on Sunday so not updating their website is normal, but on this kind of story I would have called someone in to the newsroom and at least used a wire story for it.
WCPO and WRKC: both get D's; They have not updated their websites at all which is par for the course for the weekend for both stations.
WDBZ the Buzz: gets an F; They went off the air after midnight last night and this morning they had live programming and they carried on as if nothing had happened. If I did this post later they may change programming one they go live from the Black Family Reunion, but at this point it is awful.
Disturbances in Downtown Cincinnati
WXIX who usually takes a soft stance on the problems surrounding the black community, really took a hard stance here. This quote from Cecil Thomas sums up the problem at its core: "My question is where are the parents? Why are these kids still roaming the streets totally out of control? It makes me sick to think here we try to have a nice event and then parents allow their children to run like this and be out here at this time of night."